• Asidonhopo@lemmy.world
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    IMHO foolish to focus on the most vulnerable rather than how most people are vulnerable in some way or another and putting foremost in policy messaging changes that would help large numbers of people.

    I sympathize with the plight of trans folks and other smaller disadvantaged minority groups but half of Americans are barely making ends meet, and America is falling further behind in manufacturing, infrastructure and technology/research, all while bathroom bills and grooming narratives are decade+ old very effective wedge issues.

    Help the most vulnerable certainly but put front and foremost how the vast majority would be helped if you want to motivate voters and win converts.

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        3 months ago

        That’s what I’m saying, that’s a winning message, rather than focusing on hauling ashore the few boats deemed most deserving by whatever metric and implying the others are less important and can wait.

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        Weirdly enough, it was Adam Smith, the first proto-capitalist, that came up with that idea.

        He clearly hadn’t foreseen the possibility of monopolies and abusive trade practices.

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    3 months ago

    The struggling landlord who isn’t even being tipped 😭

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    This will also work for conservatives, though. They will imsist that the most vulnerable people are unborn children, therefore they should vote anti-abortion

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      Will = have been for decades and will continue to do so. Up next is contraception because they will act like unfertilized eggs are children next.

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        If every gamete is considered viable, then a wet dream is a catastrophic loss of human lives, so puberty blockers should be mandatory before marriage

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    “I’m sure letting the fascists win chasing the rapturous dream that this time surely it will teach the DNC “its lesson” is 100% in the interests of that trans kid! And I get to make that judgement call because the list the fascists put out says how much further down the kill list I am from them!”

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    Don’t worry, the people who need to listen to this will take one look at this and say “Well, I’M voting with my HEART”, because their heart tells them to do everything they can to enable fascism in the US.

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      One of the news stations in Texas has a “foster kid of the week” kind of article on their FB page. It’s so sad, these kids just want a mom and dad that love them. Always a bunch of thoughts and prayers in the comments section.

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        As a person who participated as a parent in the foster system in Texas, I’m here to say that its about as abusive and dysfunctional as you could possibly imagine. Kids get shuttled between foster homes at the whim of state administrators. The entire focus of the program is to minimize how much they spend. The well-being of the children is an absolute afterthought. You can and will be sued by the agency if you voice any kind of complaint or try to act in the best interest of the child in your care. And even in the middle of said lawsuit, they’ll try to assign you another kid, because their left-hand doesn’t know what their right-hand is doing.

        Its a physical, financial, and emotional pain machine for everyone involved. Absolutely nightmarish.

        On the other hand, you have “domestic adoption” which amounts to a bunch of expensive private agencies doing all the things CPS is supposed to be doing while CPS officials provide a rubber stamp. Significantly less traumatic for the people involved. But because the private system is entirely funded by the adoptive parents, you’re talking about spending $50-80k to cover the budgets of all these little independent agencies tasked with finding candidates, vetting households, and caring for expectant mothers.

        The Texas model for adoption is the closest thing you can image to a full privatization of social services. It exists by, of, and for upper class predominantly white childless adults. I feel slimy every time I have to interact with it, and the only thing that keeps me going is the idea that I might be keeping some innocent kid out of the clutches of the disastrous public system.

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          My mother was in the texas foster system and told me the horrors she dealt with as a 9 year old.

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      Go ahead and downvote me. They’re used to it.

      I was fully with you until this bit.

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    Idk.

    On the one hand Trump might go to prison for the rest of his life if he loses this election.

    On the other hand most of my policy goals are at least considered by Biden.

    So I think I’ll ignore you and happily vote to send Trump to prison.

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    The most vulnerable person is a black trans woman, she is also a conservative, I did not think people like her existed until I met her.

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      Literally nobody is performing gender-affirming surgery on minors. It’s difficult enough to get as an adult lmao

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      Uhm…yeah. Everybody is against gender affirming surgery for minors.

      Contrary to what right-wing media likes to claim, it doesn’t happen.

      What does happen for transgender youth is puberty blockers. That allows them to delay the hormonal changes of puberty so that they may make an easier physical transition, if they so choose, when they are an adult. In the meantime, trans girls can more easily tuck and won’t develop a 5 o’clock shadow or deep voice, trans boys will not be growing breasts or menstruating, and both retain more a more gender-ambiguous frame.

      But puberty blockers have other uses besides gender-affirming care, and they’ve long been proven incredibly safe and non-permanent.

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        While I can see that early intervention with puberty blockers would help transgirls, it seems like transboys would need to take something more than just testosterone to get the height growth, once they reach the age of majority. HGH, maybe?

        It’s interesting how much of the language around anti-trans rights centers around 'men pretending to be women, and they entirely forget about transmen.

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          I’m not a doctor, but my laymen understanding is that it doesn’t stop puberty, it just delays it. So they end up going through a normal puberty, just at a later age.

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      Ever heard of Project 2025?

      It calls for barring transgender people from the military and to stop what it considers the “toxic normalization of transgenderism” across the government and American society. It seeks to abolish the president’s Gender Policy Council, “which it views as promoting abortion and the ‘new woke gender ideology,’”

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        its already happening my dude.

        child labour is already legalized in many states queer rights are slowly being eroded away already.

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          Yeah, and this is all because of republican footholds in those states and the supreme court. If that happened during a democrat presidency, then what do you think would happen with a republican presidency?

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            blah blah. its funny how democrats can never accomplish anything good, just bad shit blamed on republicans, but when its republicans on power nothing can ever stop them from fucking everything up.

            almost like the system itself is broken and electing a geriatric fascist is gonna fix nothing beyond the egos of people bothered by the other more crass fascist.

            nothing but a good cop bad cop routine when in reality all cops are bastards.

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              …my guy, Trump wants me fired from my job and then summarily shot. Vote for the guy that doesn’t want that if you care, please.

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                i went through similar here and it was the “progressive” one who made it happen. capital will have their way regardless.

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      Are we seriously using this as a wedge between one candidate or the other? I’d love to have full trans rights here like any other reasonable country but if the alternative is authoritarianism 2016 but with an actual plan this time then I’m not going to complain if I don’t get everything I want.

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        not a wedge. no wedge to be had if the current administration is already undermining it.

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          Okay, so you’re part of the all or nothing crowd. I’m glad the worst election year is being deluded by people that see things as only black or white. That is, if you’re not a troll. Either way, you’re doing Russia’s job for them and splintering the left further.

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            and you are part of the nothing or nothing crowd.

            i live somewhere with free healthcare and i cant believe anything less than that is acceptable and normalized to you, let alone the cruel system you have rn. but please tell me how cruelty and genocide is worth defending so hard.

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      I think they’re vastly less than perfect and I don’t want any of this for Americans but I want outright fascism less.

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    Biden seemed a bit vulnerable. But is it in his best interest to continue as a president or to retire? /s