Reminder to switch browsers if you haven’t already!


  • Google Chrome is starting to phase out older, more capable ad blocking extensions in favor of the more limited Manifest V3 system.
  • The Manifest V3 system has been criticized by groups like the Electronic Frontier Foundation for restricting the capabilities of web extensions.
  • Google has made concessions to Manifest V3, but limitations on content filtering remain a source of skepticism and concern.
  • egeres@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    It’s weird that I’ve been on firefox for the vast majority of my life and I always had this perception that “everyone” was using it. Here in lemmy you hear about it all the time, my friends use it, I see it on my newsfeeds etc

    But when you check the market share it around 2.8% while chrome is 65.1% https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share

    • nek0d3r@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      I remember a point around 2015ish where a lot of web apps went from recommending Firefox and Chrome for the best experience to just Chrome. Now I often see “don’t use Firefox” as a support tactic.

    • RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      I was at my parents house last week because i had to help them with their laptop. I told my mom about firefox and she was very confused because she doesn’t seem to understand that google chrome is a browser and that every browser can access google search or their banking site.

      It took a bit of effort to explain that firefox works the exact same but is safer and faster.

      She is now using firefox on her phone because i showed her ublock origin works with it to block ads.

      A lot of people don’t seem to understand that google chrome isn’t the internet and what exactly a browser is.

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        5 months ago

        I feel like “most people” only learn “one technology per category”. They know of, one operative system, one browser, one app to mindless scroll, one program to edit text. As a developer it shocks me a little because I’m always eager to try new programming languages, technologies and ways to interact with things. I guess most people only know about edge/safari because they come pre-installed

    • Psythik@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      Might have to do with the fact that Firefox was the dominant browser for quite awhile until Chrome arrived on the scene.

      • ahal@lemmy.ca
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        5 months ago

        Iirc it peaked at around 30% market share. I think IE was around 60% at the time. So never dominant, but definitely very very widespread.

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      5 months ago

      I guess average user cares mostly about how fast and smooth the browsing is. Chrome definitely has the edge on that over firefox.

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        5 months ago

        I’m forced to use Chrome quite a bit (workplace silliness) and exclusively use Firefox at home. I seriously cannot see this edge that you claim Chrome has. Do you mean in loading speed? Scrolling speed?

    • fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de
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      5 months ago

      Pretty great outcome for firefox really.

      I don’t think firefox numbers will get a huge & immediate bump, but I think that over time it will support a reputation for firefox as being cool different and just plain better.

      I can’t imagine raw-dogging the internet without an ad blocker in 2024. I’m aware that most people aren’t bothered by ads, but surely… surely some people might be interested in blocking them if they become aware that it’s possible and easy.

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    5 months ago

    I’m sorry. I’ve seen this so many times today and I can’t stand it anymore.

    I hate this article photo. What the fuck is that shit?? Gloveless fingers? Digit warmer? Turtlefinger sweater?

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    5 months ago

    netscape was the standard back then when expolorer was crap…fast forward today,firefox(netscape’s successor) is still the standard when other browsers are still crap.

    edit: spelling firefox and netscape…god damn butter fingers…

  • enbyecho@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    This post reminded me to try out Brave. It’s based on Chromium but purports to block ads and trackers…

    Anybody else use it?

    Edit: Interesting. Anyone care to explain the downvotes? I know nothing about this browser other than it purportedly blocks Youtube ads, which are driving me nuts.

    Edit2: Well shit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Eich

    I had no idea about this guy. Ok, so completely not an option.

  • majestictechie@lemmy.fosshost.com
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    5 months ago

    The silver lining here is that you’d hope that more people will simply adopt Firefox. It’s user share has been too low for too long given how great it is

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    5 months ago

    So maybe my experience is unique but websites don’t always test with Firefox now and some simply don’t work with it. I use it anyway out of principle but occasionally I need to open Chrome.

    On mobile it’s even worse. Firefox is stuttery on my Pixel 8 Pro and doesn’t handle more than ~20 open tabs well. The nightly version fixes the stutter but crashes all the time (it’s a nightly build after all so this is expected).

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      This is just straight-up slander. I’ve been using Firefox since 1.0PR (so for 20 years now). It was a very rare occasion when a website wouldn’t function properly, and almost never would a website completely break. I haven’t had a single issue with a website in Firefox for over 5 years now. I would appreciate it if you could post some examples of some websites that “simply won’t work with it”, because I simply don’t believe you.

      Mobile is fine too. I have a bad habit of not closing tabs. It’s gotten so bad that the tab count number is just the infinity symbol on my phone. Still don’t have any slowdown issues on a Fold 3. Didn’t have any on my OnePlus 6T, either, nor my LG G2, nor my Galaxy S3. Quit making shit up just to have an excuse to stick with a shitty browser.

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        5 months ago

        I often have to use edge or chrome to do most if anything related to my classes or for pearson. Almost never wants to work on Firefox

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          Ah yes, anything institutional or governmental tends to behind on the times when it comes to browser compatibility. Good point.

          I remember back when I tried to get assistance from my local government; the application form didn’t work unless you had IE6 (a browser that hasn’t been supported since Windows XP), in 2012.

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    5 months ago

    it’s all inevitable. client signatures, the end of privacy, jerking off on my way home from the office. there is no God

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      5 months ago

      How long until the majority of the Internet is inaccessible to non-Chromium browsers because the pages “don’t support them”?

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        Honestly the way the internet is going do you need access to the majority of the internet? I feel like its pretty dead as it is now already.

        Lemmy will still work because we mostly use Firefox, and i bet the same will hold true for many others.

        Basically the moment mainstream internet becomes google only you will see nerds build new websites specifiably to cater to the non google crowd and i trust random internet nerds a hack of a lot more than a monopoly corporation.

        BRING IT ON GOOGLE!, YOU CAN INITIATE THE PUSH TO CREATE A NEW BETTER INTERNET. ^Create demand for freedom trough your suppressive enforments^

  • kyle@lemm.ee
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    5 months ago

    To my shame, I’m still deeply ingrained in the Google ecosystem. I settled on it like 8-10 years ago and I’m not sure how to dig myself out of this pit. More than Chrome, I heavily use Docs, Sheets, Drive, Wallet, YouTube, Gmail, I even have a Pixel (I hate how bloated Samsung is).

    I’ve used Firefox a little for work because of the nice containers feature. Is Google Drive bad too? It’s so easy to share things, I torrent a lot of books and I’ve shared with a bunch of friends, idk if there’s an alternative that others could easily use.

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    5 months ago

    I’d be glad to switch back to Firefox, but websites straight up don’t work on it anymore. That was the only reason I went to Chrome.

    • fuzzzerd@programming.dev
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      5 months ago

      What websites? I use Firefox as my daily driver on desktop and mobile, and I rarely run into problems. Like so infrequently that I don’t even remember the last time.

      • HonorableScythe@lemm.ee
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        5 months ago

        Last I tried, I had serious issues using it on Comcast’s billing pages and Quest Diagnostic’s site, among others. The pages would not load at all until I went to Chrome.