@26:07 he says as a business he’s considering Linux on his computers because of Windows privacy violations. It’s great to hear someone with such a wide audience talking about using Linux.

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    additionally, we can trust him to approach it seriously whereas LTT still treats Linux like an in-joke

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      LTT still treats Linux like an in-joke.

      Well the only one who seemed to actually like Linux at LTT was Anthony(don’t know her new name) Emily. Once she went to the background after her gender transition, enthusiastic Linux coverage more or less disappeared

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        I really miss Emily, hope she comes back soon, but I understand her wanting to be on her own for a while, but honestly her videos were the best ones always.

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          Emily has always been a delight in everything she’s done.

          But even as she’s appeared in videos a lot less, It’s nice to know she’s still advocating for FOSS at LTT. Hopefully that will again result in more coverage of the kind of stuff she used to host before her transition.

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        Linus mentioned that Emily (her new name) has been internally pushing for a Linux gaming revisit on a recent Wan Show, so hopefully something comes of that.

        Also an upcoming tech upgrade video will be for someone who’s switching to Linux.

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          Hopefully the next Linux challenge goes well for them . From what I remember Linus somehow broke his fresh Linux install by just install steam lol . Can’t wait to see Elijah switch to Linux

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            I dont remember the specific details, but it was a bug in that install version that… Mint Pop_OS! (Thanks Joo)? I think it was? was slow to fix until the video came out or something?

            Anyway, long story short, He did ignore a warning, but what happened shouldnt have happened regardless, and it was totally something a novice could do, especially since, as a novice myself, most internet searchable help for linux issues boils down to “run this command, it’ll fix it” with no real broader explanation.

            That doesnt mean he isnt an ignorant cunt in a thousand other ways though.

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              Long story short, there was a bug with apt that Pop!_OS didn’t patch before the release. They did so after the latest version at the time was released. Had he updated his system before trying to install Steam, it’d never happened, that’s the worst part.

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                Should have updated the install materials or just automatically force an update upon install. Competency should never be expected from the end user.

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              The funny part, to me, is that the command he ran was so dangerous that Pop_OS required you to type out the entire phrase

              “Yes, do as I say!”

              With correct punctuation, or it won’t continue

              If it was just an “Okay” box or a “Y” to continue, I don’t think he’d have gotten as much flak for that one

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          I honestly hope they don’t do another dumb Linux challenge. Linus and Luke both have pre-prepared excuses why a conversion to Linux will fail, for them personally. Stuff like “we can’t run Photoshop” level shit. Dumb “no shit Sherlock” type nonsense.

          That means they won’t actually try, they’ll just “do it for the content” and give up again after a month or whatever. The videos will be well done but will ultimately conclude that “Linux still isn’t ready for us” and they’ll leave a bitter taste in any real Linux user’s mouth, because their excuses will be pathetic and the efforts put in will be demonstrably minimal.

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            The part you are missing is that they are making content that aligns with the majority of their audience. Most people will put in a similar level of effort. Most people don’t care, they just want it to work with the least effort possible.

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            I’ve said this several times before.

            There were a couple episodes where they had iJustine on as a guest. I think they built a server for her? Anyway one episode they did was they set up a Mac and a Windows PC next to each other, and had Justine use Windows and Linus use MacOS for a series of routine computer tasks. Both found stumbling blocks. Both of them, when hearing what the task is, said to the other “Oh you’re going to struggle with that.” I remember specifically Justine saying that of taking a screenshot on MacOS because apparently the key combination isn’t intuitive, it’s something like Cmd+6 or something?

            Why didn’t WIndows and MacOS both get declared unfit for use by normies the way Linux did? They did a similar “here are some tasks to complete” challenge which wasn’t well thought out; how would most people “sign a PDF?” Why would “enjoy HDR content” be on there other than “lol it doesn’t support this.”

            I also recall another older episode where (do we retroactively call her Emily for appearances in older videos?) walked James through the process of installing and running games in Linux. Which I think would be a more valuable series of videos than “some guys who fully intend to go back to windows at the end of a month try to slog through Linux unaided I guess.” Do a 30-day Learning Linux challenge, where some newbies who genuinely have a goal of switching platforms do so under the guidance of a veteran user.

            I’ll even put my keyboard where my mouth is. I’ve used Linux full time for 10 years now for work and play, I do not currently own any working Windows systems. I’ll volunteer to be that mentor character on camera.

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              IIRC, it’s cmd+shift+a number between one and four depending on what kind of screenshot you want to take (full screen, window, etc.). Definitely not intuitive.

              I only have any idea because I’m required to use a Mac at work. Just went and tested; cmd+shift+4 starts a “select an area to screenshot” process.

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                I love the Mac shortcuts for screen capture, I’ve even added them to my Linux Gnome desktop shortcuts to do the same.

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                  Well, to each their own. Also, I can’t say whether this applies to you, but it seems likely that one might evolve a key shortcut preference from one’s early exposure. Mine was Windows and, eventually, Linux.

                  I like shortcuts involving the Print Screen button because the label is clear to me and because I can take a screenshot with a maximum of two buttons rather than three, none of which clearly express “screenshot” to me.

                  Regardless of the reasoning, I doubt we’ll come to an accord, but I respect your preference.

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    DankPods uses Linux on his gaming system, which I just found out recently. Seems like Linux is starting to gain traction in the content creator space now, which is neat.

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    Unfortunately until gaming companies see their base users move to Linux I doubt any changes will happen. But this could be a very good step in that direction if YouTubers start promoting Linux is the way to go for games and web browsers. Some people don’t use anything else.

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      Ironically, that is why I wanted Stadia to succeed. It would have forced many game companies to consider Linux.

      But Google screwed the pooch.

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      It’s a chicken and egg problem. Both users and devs need to move at the same time, in reality that means bit by bit.

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      Not just gaming companies, but pretty much all companies. Fuck all works on Linux, unless you’re into dev/IT.

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        Its funny how familiarity works. I think doing simple stuff in windows in infuriating now that im used yo Linux.

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          I’m not talking about simple stuff. That’s the problem with Linux - it’s only usable for simple stuff.

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        Huh? How am I able to daily drive it on multiple machines for audio production, gaming, and workstation use.

        I must have accidentally installed Windows…

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        I’m not a dev or into IT and I’m on Arch Linux playing games and working without any problems. My sister has more trouble getting some games to run on Windows than I do on Linux.

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          Only time I reinstalled Windows on a laptop was when I was trying to get an ODB2 over USB connector to work, and the program (FORSCAN) couldn’t automatically read the device in Wine. You had to run a series of commands to find the device and then create a symlink in that Wine prefix. I was not going to tinker around like that while sitting in a hot car upon the hope I get it right and don’t fuck up the instrument cluster.

          But besides those weird edge cases, it’s been pretty easy for me too, and I still reinstalled Linux after that little project!

          Now that I think about it, I wonder if a Windows VM would have worked…

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            A VM would normally work if USB passthrough is properly configured. That said, on operations just like that, I normally just boot to my small Windows partition that I keep around for just such an occasion.

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        99% of things people do on a computer just require a web browser, and those definitely work on Linux.

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          People who only do these things do them on their phones. When you actually need a PC to do shit, you either have to use Windows or MacOS.

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        Lol, sheeeh, the ratio!! I’m a (sadly) Windows-focused sysadmin in higher education and I agree with this, Linux is amazing for servers but normal business users can’t do shit with it : (

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          This was definitely true ten years ago! I’m sure you’ll catch up to the modern linux experience soon though.

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    Yep, with Linux being able to play most games (and growing) and Microsoft’s latest transgression, Linux seems like the logical bastion for anyone tired of features nobody asked for.

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    My main hope for this is that their feedback helps the development of benchmarking and profiling tools on Linux. They do have quite a bunch of experience with them that could be really useful.

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    I kinda doubt they’ll fully migrate to Linux since they depend on many proprietary software tools that aren’t available outside of Windows.